Media Trying to Fix the Rome Shubert Story

by Scott Creighton

I have been leaving this Santa Fe shooting story alone for the past day or so just to see how it all shakes out and I will tell you, a couple recent stories from the complicit media make me wonder more about it than I did at the start.

First of all, the New York Times now says Rome was grazed by a bullet in the back of the head, not “shot in the back of the head” like the story was first reported.

“Rome Shubert, 16, one of Santa Fe’s pitchers, sat on a metal folding chair near the dugout for the opening pitch. He had been grazed in the back of the head by a bullet on Friday.” New York Times May 20th

Now maybe that’s because so few folks are buying the story that Rome himself was selling when it first happened.

“As soon as I got into–as soon as I got into the emergency room, and they had got me in to a room they [the doctors] were like–I got–had gotten looked over–they–a couple doctors came in there and said, to, its a–just went through and through. And that, uhm, how responsive I am is really, really good” Rome Shubert, KHOU interview day after shooting

Ok. A “through and through” gunshot wound to the back of the head is not “grazed… by a bullet”. Those are two separate things.

Now, understand, the reporter for the New York Times may not have been entirely accurate in his description of the wound. To him (her?) a bullet could ENTER a person’s body at the base of the skull and then EXIT that body on the other side below the ear and still be considered “grazing” maybe. Maybe.

Or maybe the NYT audience is a bit more discerning than CNN and Fox News and KHOU audiences… so they “tweaked” the story a little to make it more palatable to their better educated audience.

Or maybe the reporter just got it wrong. That’s possible.

But I remind readers of the ridiculous dressing that was on Rome’s wounds during the CNN interview. They were almost cartoonish in fact, which led many to question this particular victim’s story.

I covered that interview here and I used screenshots to show you the dressing.

This supposedly was the dressing applied to Rome’s “entrance” wound. Tape stuck to the back of his HAIR clearly not even making contact with his skin… where the entrance wound supposedly is. Notice… his collar has no blood or other drainage. If the bandage is loose just taped to the back of his head, wouldn’t the blood and other drainage run down his neck to his shirt?

This is the dressing of his “exit wound”

The tape is flopping off, perhaps so folks could see blood underneath? Why would a CNN producer not insist that he address the exposed wound before filming? Notice the blood on the shirt under this wound.

In the case of the exit wound, there does seem to be some kind of injury. The blood on the shirt is a good indicator. But in the case of the “entrance wound” there is nothing.

And that is too say nothing of the fact that the ER docs didn’t bother to shave his head back there or make sure the dressing was even taped to his skin.

Seems rather ridiculous doesn’t it? Which explains this next part of the story.

Fox News conducted an interview with the young man and the first thing out of the interviewers mouth was a statement about people out here in internet land NOT BELIEVING his story. Probably due to the CNN/ABC interview and the shoddy dressing of the wounds.

Now, REMARKABLY, they had Rome conduct the interview SANS DRESSING. Thats’ right. They made him do the interview without his bandages so the viewer could see the exit wound under his left ear, which looks like a wound, obviously.

As you can see, there is something there but there is no bruising, no swelling that I can see. Just a hole. But there is something.

However, about that entrance wound.

His mother, a nurse I believe, showed where the entrance wound was.

Right. That’s the best view I could get of what she showed Fox. They didn’t shave a SINGLE HAIR off the kid where a .38 caliber bullet whacked against the back of his SKULL and supposedly ENTERED HIS BODY and traveled down to where the exit wound was… INSIDE HIS BODY.

Got that?

And she’s a nurse and wasn’t surprised by that wound dressing pictured above? Really?

Anyway, just for reference… here is a picture of all the stuff that large caliber bullet would have to have passed through for this “through and through” wound:

Image result for 3d model of a human head

And here is a picture of an entrance wound in someone’s face. Notice the bruising and swelling?

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I wonder if they did a CAT-scan on this kid before kicking him loose.

I don’t know what happened to that kid. Is he trying to position himself for something? Lots of folks do when events like this happen. He wouldn’t be the first.

Could be he got lucky. And I mean REAL lucky.

Don’t know.

But I do know that entrance wound looks mighty suspect to me. But, then again, I’m not a doctor. Still, apparently it looks suspect to a lot of folks which might be why the complicit media is doing their best to help em out.

22 Responses

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  2. I’m gonna say it again. Never trust a “ginger.”

    • Is that an anagram?

      • No, Bennie, it’s a joke & reference to a common prejudice against red-heads. Rome Shubert is a red-head.

        • I’ve read some things about redheads that are analogous to prejudice about the anagram, hence the anagram, and in connection with genetics, tribal transmigration, cultural affinity etc. So many lost tribes…

  3. You aren’t a doctor, multiple Doctors examined him and made the diagnosis. I will take that over your agenda driven ignorance.

  4. If he had went to an ER–which REAL gun shot survivors do–they would of shaved the back of his head to get a good view of the wound. And his cranial area would of swollen up BIG TIME even if it was just a graze, just from the bullet’s force of bouncing off his skull.
    Dont see either, and I’ve attended GSW in the field as an EMT, EMT-P and firefighter.

  5. How about publicizing in print the NAME of the emergency room /hospital, and the NAME of the attending medical doctor.

    Everything about this scream hoax. Let’s try to get some REAL FACTS about his medical treatment. If this is the way the doctor(s) at that emergency room treat a gunshot wound to the head, even a “graze” where there is no entry wound and no exit wound, I am sure every effort is being made to keep the name of the emergency room / hospital and the name of the M.D. who did this very secret. They have to keep it secret because there probably was no real emergency room doctor that would send this patient out with that kind of bandage.

    We want the NAME of the hospital.
    We want the Name of the medical doctor.

    If the boy really was shot and he got that lousy level of care, the boy’s parents ought to be readying a malpractice law suit.

    • That’s what I was thinking. Rather than Fox doing an interview with a young man exposing his wound to possible infection, why not just ask the mother for the report she received when the kid was cleared to leave the hospital? Doesn’t that make a lot more sense?

      • Yes, the more everyone presses to get the facts, the more we can observe the response of the mother and the media, and from that response we can know whether this a crisis acting scenario as part of the Santa Fe incident.
        If the response presents an open and logical explanation for what we have seen so far, then good.

        Even if this shows itself to be unverifiable probably crisis active scenario, it does not mean that there were not real injuries and real deaths, but it does give us strong impetus to keep searching for all the facts about those ostensibly real causalities.

        “We” have been able to press the press to some extent so that they are showing some signs of trying to “fix” their stories or make it seem more reasonable and acceptable. We need to keep on pressuring the press into more responses which will exonerate them or responses that further make them look like they are deliberately printing totally unsubstantiated stories.

        • Those of you who are still allowed to use Twitter could simply ask @rome_shubert17 what doctor skillfully applied that band aid to his hair and which hospital let him walk out their door as it was falling off. Worst case scenario, he’s forced to pretend you don’t exist. If, instead of answering your legitimate question, he instantly blocks you and/or the twitter thought police toss you off their platform, Rome’s probably caught up in some type of fraud.

          • Thanks for good suggestion, Sam. Am working on that.

          • I never recommend making direct contact with any of the people involved in these events. It’s too easy later for someone to paint it as harassment no matter how polite and professional you are. Of course he will block you. Of course he wont answer the question. And what do you do from there? What if he gives you names of a hospital and a doctor? Patient records are privileged information. What do you do then? It’s pointless. And it can backfire. So my suggestion, look for information elsewhere because whatever you get from him, will be worthless either way you look at it.

            • “Of course he will block you. Of course he wont answer the question. And what do you do from there? What if he gives you names of a hospital and a doctor? Patient records are privileged information. What do you do then? It’s pointless. And it can backfire. So my suggestion, look for information elsewhere because whatever you get from him, will be worthless either way you look at it.”

              I do not have a twitter account but have put out a suggestion on another forum. The name of the emergency room/ hospital where he was treated is NOT privileged information, however Rome can refuse to share that information. The name of the M.D. is may or may not be “privileged information.” In any event, Rome and whatever family member may have been with him when he went for treatment would have been told the name of the attending doctor. It is common for patients to talk among themselves and share the name of their doctor and it that name appears in print somewhere, that would not be at all unusual. Emergency room doctors learn early on to kind of suppress their name tags and their names and prefer to just be a generic doctor.

              I think it would only make Rome look very bad to charge harassment, at a time when he is trying hard for positive vibes from the public. Yes, it is likely that there will be either no response or even that Rome will ban the questioner from his account, but just that non-response is something we researchers consider valuable when trying to shine the light of truth on the deaths and injuries from the Santa Fe incident.

              What will we do then? We will keep needling away trying to find facts and truth. Those of us who do that and share our findings are doing a great service to every true American.

              • “The name of the emergency room/ hospital where he was treated is NOT privileged information”

                I never said it was. But patient information FROM the er/hospital IS privileged information, so even if you had that info, contacting them isn’t going to provide you with any information about Rome or his stay.

              • “I think it would only make Rome look very bad to charge harassment, at a time when he is trying hard for positive vibes from the public. Yes, it is likely that there will be either no response or even that Rome will ban the questioner from his account, but just that non-response is something we researchers consider valuable when trying to shine the light of truth on the deaths and injuries from the Santa Fe incident.”

                Knowing that you can’t use the information you request of him to garner more information about his treatment (or lack there of) from a medical facility… and doing it in order to provoke him into a response that “makes him look bad”… is by definition, harassment… which is legitimate if you wish to question a public official and hold him responsible for a decision they made, but not a 16-year-old child.

                I’m just saying there are better ways to find those valuable things we researchers should shine a light on OTHER THAN direct communication with him or any other supposed victim of these events.

                I STRONGLY recommend folks DO NOT make contact with him.

                • “Knowing that you can’t use the information you request of him to garner more information about his treatment (or lack there of) from a medical facility… and doing it in order to provoke him into a response that “makes him look bad”… is by definition, harassment… which is legitimate if you wish to question a public official and hold him responsible for a decision they made, but not a 16-year-old child. ”

                  None of us have any intention of directly “contacting” Rome or the medical facility.
                  We expect no response at all and that is what we will use.

                  If he chooses to ban the inquirer for harassment, which I seriously doubt he will, that is the risk the inquier took and really does no harm to anyone but Rome. Rome opens himself up to “trolls” or people who ask politically incorrect questions and Twitter and Rome always have their tools to suppress information seeking.

                  We will not be cowered or backed down.

                  Veritas

                  • “None of us have any intention of directly “contacting” Rome or the medical facility.”

                    If you contact him via Twitter… YOU ARE CONTACTING HIM DIRECTLY. And if he responds with the name of a facility he received treatment, you have no intention of following up? What kind of shit “investigation” is that?

                    “We expect no response at all and that is what we will use.”

                    “use”? “use” for what? that is not investigation. its badgering.

                    You aren’t here asking about doing some form of investigation… you are hear to make it look like folks on this site badger and harass supposed victims of these events.

            • Yeah, you’re probably right…AGAIN. It’s too bad that getting straight to the point by asking an honest question directly to the one person that could end all potential controversy may be considered harassment. I wish you had offered up this friendly advice to me about 20 twitter accounts ago.

              • lol. It is a sad state that simply asking a question could be spun in that way, I completely agree. But that’s the world we live it today. And ultimately, his story, real or fabricated, says little to the overall legitimacy of the entire thing. Sometimes people make up stories so they can profit one way or another off these events. There were two brothers who got caught claiming their aunt was killed in one of them a couple years ago. Even had a pic taken with Kennith Feinberg, the payout Czar for all things American Gladio, if I recall. Their aunt had been dead for a number of years prior to the event. It happens. I’m sure they weren’t the only ones. So even IF someone could somehow manage to prove he isn’t telling the truth (and his missing entrance wound goes a long way as it is to show something is amiss) what does that really prove other than… he isn’t telling the truth about something? That’s one guy… not the entire event. In the end it’s not worth denigrating the entire citizen investigation effort pursuing this kid for a statement… that won’t really tell us anything anyway. Investigate the patsy/suspect. Look at the timeline of events. Examine the motive. Record the fallout. Check the official records once they filed. See if there are discrepancies. We don’t have access to crime scenes or collected evidence. There are limits to what we can do. We do the best we can and formulate our conclusions as best we can. The trick is… not becoming the kinds of people we oppose in the process of opposing them.

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