Egyptair MS804: US Navy Removed Page on Phoenix Express from Website

by Scott Creighton

UPDATE: Even more interesting. Readers have pointed out that the article is back up on the Navy website with a different posting date and article number along with a rather remarkable edit. Please see UPDATE at end of article.

This is interesting.

The US Navy has removed the Phoenix Express page from their website.

Here’s a screenshot of their search page. You can see the article they had up talking about how the Phoenix Express drills in the Mediterranean Sea had begun. This is the same article I used as a source in my first article about the drill.


And here is what that links to now.


Gone. History. Down the rabbit hole. That’s not suspicious, now is it?

A little while ago I wrote about how Egyptair Flight MS804 was flying through an Africom naval exercise when it went down off the coast of Egypt. That article was picked up by Jeff Rense, Reddit, WRH and David Icke’s website. It got a lot of attention. So did the one I wrote about showing how it now appears something exploded near or outside the co-pilot’s window and that is what caused the plane to go down.

And now the Navy has dropped their webpage on Phoenix Express 2016? That’s a little curious, huh?

The Egyptians say they are having to wait 14 days or so before a French vessel shows up to help them search for the missing black boxes from the aircraft. By then they expect the pinging to have stopped.

Like Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, they will never find that aircraft because if they do, they will have to explain why it looks like it was hit by a missile and not blown up by someone’s “soda can” bomb.

Now it is possible that someone at the Navy decided they didn’t want folks to be confused by their drill taking place at the same time the plane suddenly blew up for no apparent reason and that is possible I suppose.

But in terms of counter-productive PR, this is probably text-book. Obviously, removing the page is going to cause people to be suspicious. Leaving the link on the other page, making sure people understand that the article and the drill were in fact real and official evidence of them has been removed, is yet another example of “military intelligence” turning out to be not that intelligent after-all.

UPDATE: Hat Tip to Anon and Tim for finding this.

The Navy has put back the offending article on Phoenix Express 2016 and if it was painfully suspicious that they removed the article in the first place after a few of us noticed Flight MS804 flew right through their little naval war-games when it disappeared, what they’ve done now look like it came straight from the OJ defense team playbook.

The very first article I wrote about the missing Egyptair flight written on May 19, 2016 (a day before the one that got all the attention) included this:

“According to the Phoenix Express 2016 website:

U.S. units participating include the dive and rescue salvage ship USNS Grasp (T-ARS 51), and the USS Gravely (DDG 107). Additionally, medical and maritime interdiction operations specialists will assist participating partner nation units during the exercise.” Phoenix Express 2016

The USS Gravely is a Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer with the motto “First To Conquer”. “Gravely was sent to patrol the eastern Mediterranean Sea in response to rising rumors of an imminent U.S. military intervention in the Syrian civil war”” Scott Creighton, May 19, 2016

That quote came from the webpage which now reads in part:

“and an Algerian officer will oversee a five-ship surface action group participating in the at-sea phase.

Medical and maritime interdiction operations (MIO) specialists will assist participating partner nation units during the exercise.

A senior leader seminar will be held one day prior to the start of the exercise, organized and facilitated by the Near East South Asia Center for Strategic Studies.” Story Number: NNS160523-10 Release Date: 5/23/2016 10:28:00 AM

The original which I quoted, located via the Wayback Machine by Anon, reads as follows:

“and an Algerian officer will oversee a five-ship surface action group participating in the at-sea phase.

U.S. units participating include the dive and rescue salvage ship USNS Grasp (T-ARS 51), and the USS Gravely (DDG 107). Additionally, medical and maritime interdiction operations specialists will assist participating partner nation units during the exercise…

A senior leader seminar will be held one day prior to the start of the exercise…” Story Number: NNS160517-22 Release Date: 5/17/2016 3:44:00 PM

There were a few minor changes to go along with this edit but I feel it is very telling that it would appear the Navy has decided to erase the record of their Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, the USS Gravely, participating in an event in which a civilian airliner may have been downed accidentally by a surface to air missile.

From the Wiki page on this class of destroyer:

“They were designed as multi-mission destroyers[8] to fit the anti-aircraft warfare (AAW) role with their powerful Aegis radar and surface-to-air missilesWiki

Also interesting is the fact that I had mentioned in that same article a quote from in reference to Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370:



Two planes drop off radar suddenly over naval drills involving the same class destroyer equipped with the same surface to air missile systems with witnesses at both events describing seeing burning planes in the sky in the area where they disappeared. In both cases it appears the planes will never be located.

Is it possible that this is a coincidence? Is that likely?

Or, is it more likely that a guided missile system currently being used by the Arleigh-Burke-class destroyers is not as accurate and combat ready as the military procurement teams would have our sailors believe?

Is that who the editors are covering for? Raytheon or one of the other big boys in the “military industrial complex”?

This would not be the first time that a system was declared fit for combat and shipped out to our boys overseas when it wasn’t resulting in some rather unpleasant accidents. You could fill a couple volumes with reports about those. I’m sure someone in the military already has.

Clearly, I am operating on the assumption that these two events, Malaysian Airlines Flight Mh370 and Egyptair Flight MS804 were accidents. Unlike Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 flying over Ukraine, in these two theaters of operations (Asia Pacific and Africom) the downing of civilian airliners has no strategic value, even for the black-ops boys of Special Operations. It should be noted, I believe Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 was downed by the neo-Nazi fascist regime in Kiev, not Special Operations.

With the “pivot to Asia” and the current program to re-colonize the whole of Africa underway, bad press like this, the downing of a civilian airliner in either location would cripple on-going “hearts and minds” operations and embolden the movements on both continents which are dedicated to getting NATO and US military interests out of the areas.

We are often expected to imagine our military as being incapable of such accidental downings of civilian airliners. Any such notions would call into question our military’s engagement across the globe and could in fact begin a national call to step-back from the program of ever increasing military readiness and the subsequent spending that goes along with it. Especially at a time when vicious austerity measures are being slammed on the civilian population because of the dreaded debt monster.

With so much at stake overseas and here at home for the M.I.C. it’s understandable that someone somewhere may have thought it would be a good idea to remove evidence of the same class destroyer being involved in yet another military drill when yet another civilian plane was shot down.

Perhaps someone didn’t want a pattern exposed.

I can’t speak to the motives of this edit but I can wonder aloud now about a possibility of yet another shoddy guidance system being made ready and installed on Navy vessels before it was fit for combat. It’s happened before and I’m sure it will happen again.

If, and I emphasize the word “if”… if these events were brought about by faulty missile guidance systems on two Arleigh-Burke-class destroyers, then God help our sailors and pilots in the event that we end up going into a full-scale combat scenario with a military like that of Iran, Russia or China. How many US sailors or flyers, how many NATO planes, will these systems take out by mistake before they are fixed or replaced altogether? How many times will the sailors on board one of these vessels stake their lives on the missile system taking out a threat in the air before they are hit only to watch their weapons sail off into the sunset looking to acquire some other unintended target instead?

It is said you don’t go into a hunt or combat with an untested gun. What if it’s been tested and proven to fail but you’re stuck with it anyway because some bureaucrat struck a deal with the military industrial complex for the purchase and delivery of a flawed product?

As I have stated before, I don’t know what happened to Flight MH370 and Flight MS804 but I know what the evidence is starting to look like and after having done this work for so many years I no longer believe in coincidences and have come to understand if there’s a cover-up, there’s a fire somewhere. Something someone believes NEEDS to be covered up.

My heart goes out to the victims and their families on these two flights (might as well add those of TWA Flight 800 while I am at it). But, if I am correct and this was a horrible accident born of unscrupulous business dealings within the military purchasing machine, my heart also goes out to those sailors on board those vessels. Living with something like this, the knowledge that can never be shared of a horrible accident taking so many lives, must be an unimaginable burden.

If there is fault here I doubt it is with those sailors or their commanders on board those vessels. Like so many other aspects of all of our lives these days, the fault can and should be laid squarely on the corrupt politicians who facilitate greedy corporate interests whose sole interest is making a buck no matter what the cost. Clearly this is a story as old as war itself and my work is merely a drop in a very large sea of suffering, both civilian and military.

My thanks goes out to Tim and Anon for pointing out the changes in the article. Very telling indeed.

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12 Responses

  1. Reblogged this on deinvestiture.

  2. Thanks. Another good find on EgyptAir and murderous traitors. DrEd

    Nothing Known CAN Kill Communications & A Plane EXCEPT EgyptAirMS804 Meet Iron Dome PhoenixExpress

  3. Aer Lingus lost one to UK Navy about 1957-missile

  4. Very good post. It’s these small details that, taken all together and factored into the pattern of history, will incriminate the guilty.

  5. I suspect we will see “debunking” stories that will say Phoenix Express was a hoax, and offer as evidence that there is no mention of it on the Navy’s website, which is technically true, because they won’t mention that it used to be there, It won’t work on the seriously skeptical, but the casual reader who doesn’t go deeper than one page of a google search might be fooled.

    • I agree. And in the short term, it might serve their purpose for people who aren’t really interested in getting further into the story than the kind who would be satisfied saying Russia shot down Flight MH17 for no reason or MH370 magically flew for a thousand miles without being on radar. But in the end, even if they pulled it up from the bottom of the sea and it was peppered with the exact same kind of holes that Flight 17 had right around the cockpit area, people would still avoid believing it was brought down by an accident by someone in that drill. Look at TWA 800. It couldn’t be more obvious that a missile brought it down. 100+ witnesses and high explosive residue on the outside of the plane and what do people believe? They believe the “official story” of a spark in the fuel tank even though “officially” they never offered an explanation for how that spark might have happened. And that’s it. Magical thinking. Sometimes it’s so clear how far beyond 1984 we really are. The problem is, people wont go beyond that one page search because they don’t want to. And folks like us… we’re a vanishing breed. They’ll have me out of operation pretty soon. Already working on it.

  6. It should have been called Operation Orient Express. Recall how ALL the passengers were murderers? This was probably a set up to pull all the newly militarized African countries over to the dark side once and for all. There’s probably useable dirt on all of them now to keep them in line. Bury the story now; threaten to reveal it later. It’s as old as time.

  7. Looks like it’s back up. The original URL (from your screenshot) is gone [] but the story is back with a later sequence number:

  8. original page from wayback machine

    current page from your link

    with subtle differences…
    “U.S. units participating include the dive and rescue salvage ship USNS Grasp (T-ARS 51), and the USS Gravely (DDG 107)”

    has been removed.


    “The benefit of Phoenix Express is the coordination and collaboration that happens between multinational partners in the maritime environment, every Chief of Naval Operations that I have ever worked for, part of their vision has always been not just the U.S. Forces but all of the other partners that we operate with around the world. “It takes all of us working together and contributing to each other’s knowledge and experience.” – Rear Adm. Kevin Kovacich, Director of Strategy, Plans and Programs, United States Africa Command

    “I provide customized and dedicated training to the participating units and have been committed to this for the past nine years since the center was established. Phoenix Express sets the provisions to allow partners to get integrated and provide opportunities for the crew members to work and integrate together.” – Commodore Georgios Tsogkas, Commandant of NATO Maritime, Interdiction Operational Training Center (NMIOTC), Hellenic Navy”


    “The U.S. 6th Fleet, headquartered in Naples, Italy, conducts the full spectrum of joint and naval operations, often in concert with allied, joint, and interagency partners, in order to advance U.S. national interests and security and stability in Europe and Africa.”

    added to the later page.


  9. USS Gravely

    no proof of anything but….


  10. […] Egyptair MS804: US Navy Removed Page on Phoenix Express from Website […]

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